After agreeing to a compromise suggested by Commander William Riker, the exocomps were released and able to save the lives of Picard and La Forge. When TNG Supervising Producer David Livingston first met Stewart, the actor visited Livingston's trailer (where Livingston was otherwise alone) with a box of wigs, and asked where he could find the make-up and hair staff, as the production crew wanted to see what he looked like with the wigs on. Picard threw a tantrum and demanded to see his "father," Riker. (TNG: "The Chase", "Qpid") It was also during this time he took great interest in studying the Iconians. He was everything that a captain ought to be." The Phoenix was destroyed before it could accomplish its mission, but Picard, Nog, and Vash traveled back in time twenty-five thousand years, where they became three Bajoran mystics who wrote prophecies of the events they had experienced; it is also implied that Vash and the elder Picard were married. Her intent was not malicious it was to warn the Federation of the real threat the anomaly posed. Picard's results were at or above Starfleet standards in every category (cardiovascular, metabolic, and cognitive), but the defect in his parietal lobe had developed further. On one occasion, Picard pretended to be in love with Lwaxana in order to save the ambassador's daughter, Deanna Troi, and Riker from Ferengi captivity. Picard and Rios discussed the latter's past with Starfleet and the job Picard was offering, which Rios seemed willing to accept. Biographical database - Picard, Jean-Luc (PIC: "Remembrance"), Back at Chteau Picard, Laris, Picard, and Zhaban reviewed the security footage from Starfleet Headquarters where Dahj was killed. Captain Phillipa Louvois supported Maddox's claim, and Picard intervened by challenging their reasoning, saying that Data was indeed sentient and deserved the freedom to make his own decisions. STAR TREK: PICARD Review "The Star Gazer" - TrekCore.com Stewart exudes authority and presence, consistently keeping the proceedings away from Space Patrol kitsch. (DIS: "Unification III", "Terra Firma, Part 1"; TNG: "Unification II"), In 3190, Hugh Culber cited Picard's resurrection as the first successful implementation of the Soong Method when he was preparing to use it to provide Gray Tal with a new body. The attack destroyed not only all the ships of the rescue fleet but also Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards and ignited the stratosphere for years to come, rendering the terraformed planet uninhabitable. Having learned the ship's controls from his observations of Rios, Picard was able to take the ship back into orbit and face down the Romulan fleet, led by Commodore Oh, now revealed as a Romulan general. (PIC: "Monsters"), Ultimately, the entire scenario was Qs effort to help Jean-Luc deal with the trauma of his mothers suicide when he was a child. (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, pp. Although Q's petulant and acerbic attitude did little to ingratiate himself to Amanda, he eventually convinced her to go with him to the Continuum to learn to use her new-found abilities. "Fifteen years, I've been waiting to say that. The android body was built to be identical to his Human body in all other ways, lacking any enhanced physical or mental abilities and having the same remaining lifespan Picard's Human body would have had if not for his brain defect. Picard managed to destroy the enemy vessel using the Stargazer's warp engines in a unique tactical maneuver (later named the "Picard Maneuver"), but was forced to abandon the Stargazer aboard a shuttlecraft, where he and the other survivors travelled for weeks through deep space before being picked up by passing Federation starship. (TNG: "Deja Q"), Late in 2367, Q returned to the Enterprise to "properly" thank Picard for his role in helping him regain his standing in the Continuum. USS Stargazer, introduced in Picard Season 2. Ultimately, Picard learned his lesson, and everyone was returned to the Enterprise. In an alternate timeline created by Q where Earth had become the Confederation of Earth by the 25th century, Picard was a general in the Confederation Corps and was a ruthless and highly successful general of the Confederation of Earth. The cube proceeded towards Earth and engaged Starfleet in the Battle of Wolf 359, resulting in the destruction of 39 Federation vessels. The orphaned son of Lieutenant Marla Aster again raised his concern about the vessel's civilian family contingent, although his unease with children had lessened since being stranded with three youths during a shipboard quantum filament crisis. (PIC: "Maps and Legends"), During the Cardassian wars, the Stargazer was involved in a truce offering by the Federation. He sought refuge on the Enterprise and, although Picard and the rest of the crew were initially unconvinced of the sincerity of Q's pleas, the captain agreed to provide Q temporary asylum. ", Robert Justman was instrumental in the casting of Picard. Still, it pains me to see the great Jean-Luc Picard brought down by a woman. A massive vessel came through the rift and emitted a shock wave. (Star Trek Nemesis; PIC: "Maps and Legends"), Despite his captaincy of the Enterprise, Picard still found time for fencing, racquetball, and equine sports, usually on the holodeck. Picard was originally intended to be in his early fifties, with a twenty-two-year stint captaining the Stargazer (citation needed edit); Stewart himself was forty-seven in 1987. (TNG: "The Chase"), In 2342, Picard dated a young woman named Jenice at the Caf des Artistes in Paris. And then, the cast, we've got such a good banter and a good relationship between the whole cast and between scenes. Living with him were two Romulan refugees Laris and Zhaban who joined his household about four years later, and also his dog Number One. (PIC: "Nepenthe"), Although Picard initially intended not to involve Riker (or any of the rest of his surviving Enterprise crew) in his quest for Soji Asha, once he found her on the Artifact and needed a safe haven, he brought Soji to Riker and Troi's home on Nepenthe. The show established a long gap between the Stargazer and the Enterprise-D; the Okuda timeline states he was 59 in TNG Season 1 (and thus is 74 in Star Trek Nemesis, compared to Stewart having been 62 when that film was made). Stargazer. ", "Really, Vash, I can't believe you're still pining for Jean-Luc, that self righteous do-gooder. They're morality tales. Stargazer. Picard offered them safe haven from retribution on his family's vineyard on Earth. Lore persuaded them to aid his plan to conquer Earth. So it's about finding that identity and finding his place. Although the proposed Short Treks episode never came to fruition, two pieces of set dressing for Star Trek: Picard (the Speed of Light Club certificate in Picard's quantum archive, seen in "Remembrance", and the commemorative plaque for the USS Leondegrance seen in "The Star Gazer") establish the relationship canonically. Data's intransigence threatened to end his Starfleet career and even his own existence, but it was later revealed that Picard was himself responsible for Data's unusual behavior after an encounter with the Paxans in a T-Tauri type star system. To the contrary, Spock was on a "personal mission of peace," and Picard insisted on staying until Spock's affairs were complete. Helping Data standing up, Picard asked him if he was ever tempted to join the Borg's cause. Remarked Berman, "That was the best three words we could have heard." The two kept in touch for awhile, but never crossed paths again. Picard reappeared at the end of the arc where Q returned, now enveloped by the energies of a Prophet. Actor Allusion: According to background details, Picard's first starship posting was to the USS Leondegrance while it was serving as a training ship under the command of Captain Uhura; Patrick Stewart played Leondegrance in the film Excalibur. He ordered Elnor to come along, but Elnor refused, insisting he should cover Picard's escape. Rick Berman later remembered, "They felt, how can you put a new captain at the seat of the Enterprise? She told Picard that, based on the information he gave her, she had discovered that Bruce Maddox was on Freecloud. Here's a look at the Constellation Class USS Stargazer, Captain Jean-luc Picard's first command.Stay in the loop if ya want:Facebook: http://www.facebook.com. Effectively bringing an end to the conversation of Seven of Nine getting her own ship finally. Mar 3 2022 Advertisement Star Trek: Picard 's second season debuts with familiar friends, old enemies, and the road not taken. By that point in his life, Picard considered his younger self as "a damn fool. Their friendship soon blossomed into love. Picard and Ro had what could be described as a father/daughter-like relationship. (TNG: "The Child") He was one of the very few officers Picard addressed by his first name, indicating a close bond between them. (DS9: "Q-Less"), In 2372, Worf and Miles O'Brien reminisced in Quark's about rescuing Picard from the Borg Collective. Roddenberry recalled, "In his wisdom, Justman kept his mouth shut and let me grow accustomed to him." [8]. Picard returned in the Star Trek: Ongoing story arc The Q Gambit. Shortly after giving the opening statement at Starfleet Academy, Picard was visited by Fleet Admiral Sally Whitley on a very sensitive matter. (PIC: "Watcher"), When choosing a first officer prior to the launch of the Enterprise-D in 2363, Picard accessed the records of a number of candidates for the job. Kemi | Memory Alpha | Fandom and the Stargazer begging for a new captain, . Samuel Clemens, returning from the 24th century, helped Picard return. Contents (TNG: "Family"), As a young boy, Jean-Luc watched his grandfather "[d]eteriorate from a powerful, intelligent figure to a frail wisp of a man, who could barely make his way home." Once repairs were complete, the Enterprise arrived to a collapsing singularity with no sign of Spock or Nero. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. The vessel was commanded by Jean-Luc Picard from 2333 to 2355. Moments later, Rios called Picard to warn him of more trouble headed his way. Having been a captain of the Federation's flagship, an admiral, and back to a captain again, Kirk advised Picard to not do anything that would have Starfleet move him away from the Enterprise, because as captain, he could make a difference. In 2366, several of the members of his crew persuaded him to go on holiday on Risa. Ultimately, Louvois sided with Picard's standpoint and agreed that Data, android or not, was indeed sentient and entitled to the same rights as any other Starfleet officer. (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, pp. ", Later yet, when Q placed Sisko in a boxing match, he was shocked after Sisko knocked him to the ground. The Pasteur was attacked and destroyed by Klingon battleships, but the Enterprise, under command of Admiral Riker, arrived to rescue the crew and fight off the Klingons. Having adapted to be perfectly compatible with Picard, Kamala found that her sense of duty demanded that she proceed with the marriage rather than pursue a relationship with Picard. Although Picard was successful in changing history, he eventually realized that the event and his previous nature as an arrogant, brash young man was a part of his identity, and had helped mold him into the successful Starfleet officer he had become. The casting notes also mentioned Stephen Macht, without specifying the role he was being considered for, though the memo did state, "He is certainly very interested. Having come to understand the origin of his difficulties regarding long-term relationships, Picard admitted his foolish behavior and asked Laris for her forgiveness and a second chance. As an ensign, Picard could sense subtleties as faint as a starship's torque sensors out of alignment by three microns. His time on Kataan also affected his views concerning family and children, as he admitted not being able to imagine a life without them. (TNG: "Coming of Age"), Although Picard often heatedly defended a strict interpretation of the Prime Directive, he broke it numerous times when he felt it was warranted. Santiago Cabrera talks about his future as the captain of the U.S.S. Seven agreed, but beamed back down to Freecloud to kill Bjayzl anyway. In several universes, Picard was still captain of the Enterprise and attended a surprise birthday party for Worf, though his services were stated to be required on the bridge. Picard saw it as a glowing record filled with statistics and the Letter of recommendation that he felt told him nothing about the kind of officer Riker actually was. Despite this, when she confessed her feelings Picards childhood trauma left him unable to enter into a relationship with her. Although in violation of the Prime Directive, Picard ordered that the Boraalans be stealthily resettled, having no other humanitarian options. Shinzon was a clone of Picard created by a former Romulan government they intended to replace the captain with a spy of their own. Picard had been charged in connection with the loss of the USS Stargazer, which Louvois relentlessly prosecuted. By 2401, Picard was reinstated as an admiral in Starfleet, and appointed Chancellor of Starfleet Academy. (PIC: "Maps and Legends") He ultimately died just after the Defense of Coppelius due to the defect, only continuing to live on when his consciousness was transferred into a golem lacking the defect but otherwise identical to his Human body. Star Trek: Picard season 3's Fleet Museum needs one more special ship to complete Commodore Geordi La Forge's (LeVar Burton) collection. He subsequently became one of the most outstanding cadets in his class. (VOY: "In the Flesh"), In 2375, Ensign Nog mentioned Al Lorenzo having a curious interest in taking holophotos of himself sitting behind the desks of famous Starfleet captains. (TNG: "The Perfect Mate"), Picard tried to make Crusher realize that the deaths of Jo'Bril and later Reyga were not her fault and that she should not try to rush her investigation. Concerned about the preservation of their familial values, Maurice and his wife educated their sons in the ancient traditions, avoiding, in particular, any superfluous technologies. (TNG: "We'll Always Have Paris", "Pen Pals", "Suddenly Human", "Captain's Holiday", "Allegiance"), At a very young age, Picard was diagnosed with Shalaft's Syndrome, a rare congenital defect that left him hypersensitive to any kind of sound. Birthplace: Chile Born: mid- 24th century Temporal Displacement: 2400 - 2024 Died: mid-21st century, Morocco Affiliation: Federation citizen, formerly Starfleet Career Occupation: master, La Sirena Serial number: SC-850-705 Previous Assignment: XO, USS ibn Majid Final Assignment: CO, USS Stargazer Rank: captain Insignia: In response to the first question from the Ten Forward Lounge bartender, Cabrera answered: I think it's been, I just love my set. (TNG: "Q Who"), One year later, in 2366, the Borg launched their first invasion of the Federation. "I just was not ready," he declared. David Tristan Birkin played Picard as a child in TNG: "Rascals", while Marcus Nash appeared as Picard as a young ensign in "Tapestry". (DS9: "Emissary"), In 2373, the Borg launched their second invasion of the Federation, and again the crew of the Enterprise played a major role in their defeat. They considered one another close friends and would give each other advice when dealing with difficult decisions. And out little life is rounded, with a sleep. (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, p. 92), Ultimately, John Pike opted for Patrick Stewart rather than Stephen Macht. The Battle (Star Trek: The Next Generation) - Wikipedia At the climax of the Battle in the Bassen Rift, Data jumped across the void of space from the Enterprise-E to the Scimitar, saving Picard by using a prototype emergency transport unit, but sacrificed his own life to save the crew of the Enterprise by firing at the thalaron radiation generator and so destroying the Scimitar. The Enterprise was still destroyed, and the El-Baz was pulled six hours back in time, where it was picked up by that time period's Enterprise. Q resolved to teach Picard a lesson about love and cast the captain, Vash, and the Enterprise command crew into an elaborate scenario styled by the ancient legend of Robin Hood. Picard boarded the USS Stargazer, now under Rioss command, in order to initiate contact with the anomaly. Claiming that the seven-year-old trial had never actually ended, Q proclaimed Humanity guilty of "being inferior" and informed Picard that his race was to be destroyed. Data?" Eight crewmen lost their lives, but Daren survived. Jean-Luc Picard | Memory Alpha | Fandom The final frontier. For five years, Picard clung to his life aboard the Enterprise and searched for ways to return, but eventually settled into his life as Kamin, having two children with Eline and eventually a grandchild. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Picard pleaded on an open channel with Soji, who was working to build the transmitter, to not become the "Destroyer" that the Romulans believed her to be. The unit required replacement when it malfunctioned in 2365, overseen at Starbase 515 by Dr. Katherine Pulaski. The mini-collective then disappeared into space and has not been encountered since. "You hit me Picard never hit me! In order to gain access to the Artifact, Picard asked Musiker to use her connection to Captain Emily Bosch to get him diplomatic credentials. (TNG: "Parallels"), Also in 2370, while standing trial by Q, Picard's consciousness was shifting between three alternate timelines. As noted in the same document, Gossett's agent doubted that Gossett would be interested, and a VHS tape of Dullea was meanwhile being shot in New York. (TNG: "Attached"), In an unknown, alternate future timeframe, Picard and Crusher were married, but eventually separated. When he returned to the present, Picard was a mere lieutenant junior grade, with Worf as his supervisor. Guinan asked what Maddox gained if he would be successful in disassembling and reassembling Data, and Picard responded he would possess the ability to build many more androids. In the year 2401, Starfleet Command dispatched Rios' ship to a spatial anomaly discovered by the USS Avalon. Vash later returned to the Enterprise as part of an archaeological advisory team and was upset to find that Picard had not told his friends about their relationship. Back at the Chteau, Picard revealed to Laris that he never really felt at home at the vineyard and always felt he was best suited for life out among the stars. Eventually, Picard won Data's case by pointing out that an entire race of Datas would be used as slaves, strictly against Federation principles. He just was so good. (TNG: "Clues"), Besides joining Picard on the holodeck, they would occasionally share a game of chess, and Guinan was also coached in fencing by Picard in 2368, begun when she considered exercise to strengthen her arm. Picard replied she liked it well enough two weeks prior, when she scored him two touches. In 2368, the Enterprise encountered a space probe of unknown origin, which emitted a nucleonic beam directly at Picard. During the blockade, Data disobeyed direct orders from Picard and was able to expose the Romulans' involvement in the civil war. (PIC: "Remembrance"), Sometime later, Picard had managed to help get some of the Romulan refugees to Vashti, in the Beta Quadrant. He was a lifelong avocational archaeologist, inspired by his Academy instructor, Galen, having studied the Iconian culture since his cadet days. We are such stuff as dreams are made of. "Yes, sir." I was on the Saratoga at Wolf 359. During a bar brawl over a rigged game of dom-jot, he was stabbed through the heart by a Nausicaan, and had to undergo emergency surgery to replace his heart. While Crusher was in anguish over Odan's failing health while the symbiont was in Riker's body, Picard gave her a hug, and assured her that he would always be her friend and be willing to help her any way he could. Vadic had stolen Picard's body from where it was stored at Daystrom Station in order to extract a part of his brain. I understand why my father chose to mind meld with him. Both also displayed some jealousy when the other found a love interest, such as Crusher with Odan or Picard with Jenice Manheim and Nella Daren. An earlier model of the Stargazer was Admiral Picard's (Sir Patrick Stewart) first ship, which he later described in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Relics" as an "overworked, underpowered vessel, always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." The USS Stargazer ( NCC-82893) was a Federation starship, a Sagan -class vessel in Starfleet service in the early 25th century, commanded by Chris Rios. The USS Stargazer, a Star Trek Starship (PIC: "Remembrance", "The End is the Beginning", "The Star Gazer"), Jean-Luc Picard was born in La Barre, France on Earth to Yvette and Maurice Picard on July 13, 2305. He was then visited by Q who reminded Picard about the words that he said to him when they last parted ways, "the trial never ends." (PIC: "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1", "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2"), Although their association was brief, James T. Kirk and Jean-Luc Picard had profound personal effects on one another. (TNG: "Manhunt", "Mnage Troi"), Picard had a relationship with an "adventurer" and some-time criminal named Vash. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem. Paramount+. He added that, for an android, that brief moment was like an eternity. ROK (she/he) is a So Cal-based freelance pop culture journalist, who specializes in queer culture, comic history, and fandom. They discovered that their fears were true and the Zhat Vash were behind the events that were unfolding. I thought you were a bit more evolved than the rest of your species. As the years wore on, Picard started to be plagued with dreams of Data and the destruction of Mars. (PIC: "Remembrance"), In 2399, now ninety-four years old, Picard was sought out by Dahj Asha, an android created from the remaining neural code from Lieutenant Commander Data. Commander Dexter Remmick interrogated Crusher about Picard in mid-2364 and questioned her about her true feelings towards Picard. Picard was deeply affected by Kamala, as shown by his reaction to Ambassador Briam's inquiry about the experience. Like Justman, Berman was impressed, so he advised Justman that they needed to persuade Roddenberry to cast Stewart as Picard. Following the battle, Picard held a toast with the Enterprise-E's senior officers as a tribute to their fallen comrade. Chilean actor Santiago Cabrera plays Cristobal "Chris" Rios, the former pilot of La Sirena and current Starfleet Captain of the U.S.S. I always said a Star Trek series is only as good as its captain, and Picard was pretty fucking great." Over the run of TNG, the character adopted several characteristics commonly associated with the English: he enjoys the works of William Shakespeare, and is never seen reading any works of literature by a French author. "That will be the day. You know who my agent is.'" He visited the planet several times and on one occasion, brought Elnor, a young Romulan boy he had befriended and placed under the care of the Qowat Milat, a copy of the book The Three Musketeers, and on April 5, 2385, began to teach him to fence. Picard had studied semantics and kept his Latin fresh. The USS Stargazer (NCC-2893) was a Federation Constellation -class starship operated by Starfleet during the 24th century. Before starting a media career, he earned a master's degree in criminology from San Diego State University and a juris doctor from Chapman University Dale E. Fowler School of Law. In that guide, he was born in Paris, carried a touch of French phrasing in his speech, and pretended that France is "the only true civilization" on Earth (reminiscent of Pavel Chekov). Watch: 'Star Trek: Picard' Stars Preview Where Their Characters Start Worf insisted that there was no one he would rather have at his side. During Shinzon's attempt to carry out these genocides, Picard implored him to let go of his past and embrace change, which Shinzon quickly rejected. (TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint", "The Icarus Factor"), Eventually, Riker and Picard became very good friends. It noted about Yaphet Kotto that, although he was available for the part, the studio was still waiting to find out if he would fly down or would only send a tape of himself. The replica had all of the memories and experiences of Picard but his behavior was different from the captain. "The only run-in I ever had with him, I was on the set as a producer and I thought I heard him say a line wrong, and the director said 'cut, print.' A friendship quickly formed, based on their shared love for music. When Picard told Hugh that La Forge would be assimilated, Hugh stated that La Forge did not want to be assimilated. When Gene makes up his mind, it's a waste of time to try and change it,'" Berman recounted. Afterward, it became obvious to Picard and Daren that it would be extremely difficult to continue their relationship while serving on the same ship, thus Daren requested a transfer. This resentment stayed with him at least six years after he was first assimilated. Roddenberry himself noted, "My first reaction was, 'Jesus Christ, Bob, I don't want a bald man.'" Detailed Look At Star Trek: Picard's New Ship Shown In BTS Video I didn't believe that." When Picard asked Dr. Crusher to perform medical scans on him in regards to this apparent fate, Crusher confirmed that Picard had a small structural defect in his parietal lobe that could possibly lead to Irumodic Syndrome, among other possible disorders. Picard later found out that Kamin was a member of the Ressik community on a planet called Kataan. (TNG: "Captain's Holiday"), Philosophically, Picard saw life and death as more than two choices of eternal or momentary existence. Finally, our last candidate came in, read for us and left, and we were sitting there the casting director, Rick, Gene, and myself and he finally turned around and looked at us and said, 'All right, I'll go with Patrick,' and that was it. [..] Remarkably analytical and dispassionate, for a Human. After Nero had set off, Hobus erupted with the shock wave of the detonation threatening to destroy Earth and Vulcan in a matter of weeks. Picard ordered Rios to jump to warp to begin their mission. She announced her "wedding" with William Riker on the bridge of the Enterprise shortly before moving on to Picard. (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, pp. Any of you who wish to object should do so, now. Weyoun escaped into the Pah-wraith wormhole. (TNG: "Sarek", "Unification I"), In his career, prior to 2365, Picard had been transferred "dozens of times", each of which was preceded by what he called "the practice of the feast before the transfer." Picard's Starfleet Museum Needs 1 Special Star Trek Ship To Complete It (TNG: "The Best of Both Worlds") She also once said to Geordi La Forge that she was attracted to bald men. Contents 1 History 2 Alternate timeline As of 2379, he kept the flute on his desk in his ready room aboard the USS Enterprise-E. (TNG: "Lessons"; Star Trek Nemesis), In 2371, the USS Enterprise-D was lost over Veridian III, with the vessel's primary hull crash-landing on the planet's surface. This led to his fainting and awakening on an unknown world where he was known as an ironworker named Kamin and was married to Eline. Later, Picard was visited by Dr. Jurati who informed him that Dahj's background had been created within the last few years, and there was no record of her before that time. and passed out. (TNG-R: "The Measure Of A Man") Picard served on the night watch on board the Reliant. As the Enterprise began to suffer from Calamarain attack, Q resolved to end his life to prevent further risk to the Enterprise crew, but another member of the Q Continuum prevented Q from sacrificing himself, and restored his powers as a reward for his selfless act. The crew of the Enterprise discovered that the inhabitants of Deneb IV, the Bandi, had captured a space-dwelling being to serve their own purpose. After a one-year shakedown cruise, the new Enterprise was nearly lost when the senior staff decided to sacrifice the ship in order to save Earth's future by preventing the Borg on board from changing history. Picard told her about the bond they would share in the future, and convinced Guinan to help him find the contact he needed, a Watcher. Upon suspecting a Borg presence aboard the Enterprise, Picard and Data transported back to the ship. And a damn sexy man. 91-92), By this time, the only remaining contender for the part, according to Rick Berman, was Stephen Macht. Picard's name, Jean-Luc, is the hyphenated French variants of John and Luke.
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